The Official Klout Blog

The Vision Behind Klout

November 15th, 2011 by Joe Fernandez

There has been a lot of conversation recently about Klout. As the CEO and Cofounder of Klout, I want to share my perspective publicly with you.

I get why Klout can rub people the wrong way. We are putting scores next to people and that can be initially off-putting. If you met anyone from the Klout team my hope would be for you to see that we are not elitist jerks but just a bunch of data nerds passionate about understanding the impact of every person online. We believe that every person who creates content online has influence on some topic, to some group of people. We want to help every person maximize their reach and influence and to be recognized for the impact they have.

Here I am sharing my vision nearly 3 years ago. We’ve come a long way since then, but the initial vision (first two minutes) is the same.

I started Klout in my bedroom almost four years ago while recovering from jaw surgery. During that time, I depended entirely on social media for communication. My goal was and is to create a system that recognizes people for the power of their voices on social media. I see Klout as a great equalizer for the normal person utilizing social media. Every day we are segmented by nearly every company we come into contact with. Usually this is based on how much money we spend; the level of service we receive is determined by the size of our wallets.

With social networks, I love that any person that has access to a phone can create an account, share their opinion with the world, and have an impact on their network. This value deserves to be recognized and I am proud of the work we are doing here at Klout to make that happen. To date, over 250,000 Klout Perks have been delivered to our community simply for being who they are online. These are real people getting real products of value and we look forward to continuing to help people understand, maximize and be rewarded for their influence.

The reality is that, while we’ve somehow become attached to celebrities like Justin Bieber, we don’t care about him. We may like his Christmas album, but Justin Bieber is not who Klout was created for. Everyone already knows the Biebs. We care about John Smith in Des Moines, IA who is passionate about music and wants to share his favorite bands with the world. We want to help John reach as many people as possible and hopefully unlock some really fun experiences for himself. This is only possible by continuously improving our service.

The idea of measuring influence is hugely ambitious and we have infinite work ahead of us. We know a lot of people think we’ll never get there but we love the challenge and you will never find a group more passionate about this mission than the Klout team.

As always, would love to hear any feedback you might have.

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  • http://www.venturevoice.com gregory

    It brings back memories watching that clip of you presenting at the NY Tech Meetup alongside us, CoTweet and StockTwits. Fun night. Good to see your Klout score has increased since then!

  • http://twitter.com/AllanWalkerIT Allan Walker

    I’d love to see Klout implement some sort of fuzzy logic “truth” algorythm.  Then, I’d know someone with high K is truthful. I honestly think my level of “influence” is overstated in Klout…once I realized to connect to media social channels – such as New York Times, Forbes, BBC on twitter – my score went flying up.

    But I don’t comment on their tweets or Facebook (gets lost in noise). I get better feedback from commenting on their pages per subject – I’ve had a few comments “called out” by Forbes for example. As I understand it, that doesn’t affect my K score.

    “Influence” can often seen as being pervasive, or worse, narfarious – underhandedly convincing someone to change one’s mind…snake oil anyone?

    But good on Klout for trying to formulate qualitative data with quantative data and trying to metricise the chaotic social network world :)

  • http://twitter.com/CaseyInnovate Casey Catlett

    I actually really appreciate the concept of Klout.  I’d like to see an evolution where Klout incorporates a StumbleUpon feature where I can search high-klout related users based on content.  For example, who are the Graphic Designers with the highest klout?  I would be able to search or setup a category feed that aggregates content for me.

  • http://twitter.com/confluencemedia Elza van Swieten

    I deleted my Klout account right after the +K seem to get out of control. When it just started I was able to give +k to 5 people randomly, it was cute. After that it just got too much of everything.

  • http://twitter.com/rdublife rick wion

    As a marketer, I value every single customer and want to every person in the world to be a customer. If I had an unlimited amount of time and money that I could make that happen. But I don’t. That is where data is necessary. I need data about customers to make business decisions on how I spend my limited resources. Is Klout a perfect representation of each individual customer? No. But neither is the data in any CRM system or database in any company. That is why I use multiple systems (including Klout) to build out a well-rounded view of my customers. 

  • http://twitter.com/AlexanderRemie Alexander Remie

    It’s nice that I see how “important” I am on a particular topic. But what’s missing is that Klout doesn’t then connect me to people that would appreciate my posts/tweets/etc. on that particular topic. Now that would really help me (and everyone else).

  • jb510

    While Klout is “nifty” it’s not really useful and hence after playing with it for a few weeks I quickly lost interest.  I’m not “offended” by the the concept of it, measure whatever you want… good data is good.

    However billing that data set as a measurement “influence” is just ridiculous and that I find offensive.  There is nothing in Klout’s algorithms that can measure any action outside the social sphere.  Tell me how you can measure that someone I suggested should go outside right now and enjoy the sunset actually did that?  …you can’t even measure who _clicked_ on an link I shared and went to a site I recommended.

    At best Klout measures popularity and reach and while they each have some value, it’s not directly correlated with influence.

  • http://www.phacient.com Patrick Healy

    If it’s one thing I have learned, it’s that influence is extremely difficult to measure by any third party and you can never make everyone happy. If you don’t like the service, don’t use it. With that said, I think the best measurement of influence, in my opinion, is to pay attention and take part in a space you want to understand. I can tell you whom my friends influence on topics that I engage with them on. Like on many other fronts, there is no substitute for the human element for these types of measurements. I feel you can much more easily game any algorithm than fool another person.

  • http://twitter.com/tylermalin tyler malin

    I love Klout, but to really find a place of consistent value for consumers (and the marketers who want to reach those consumers) I believe that Klout’s mission should be to use the data it collects to train individuals, small businesses, large corporations to focus and improve the way they communicate via online tools. 

    If I am a small business throwing social media marketing ideas against a wall, and I see that as I am doing so my Klout score is rising – cool, I feel like I am making progress.  BUT if I see an attendant rise in sales – WOW, now I know I am making progress. 

    If my Klout score becomes a way for me to consistently monitor the effectiveness of my communication it has real, tangible value to me – even if I am the target of personalized marketing as a result. 

    To really live up to this however I believe Klout should become the market leader in education in the space, should allow for individuals to set their “influence” goals as a filter as they join Klout so that they are measuring against their goals, not just involved in some global popularity contest, and should allow for tracking metrics that are tied to specific suggestions for improving social media communication. 

    If Klout can fill that space I believe it will transform into an invaluable tool.

  • http://twitter.com/adamkleinberg Adam Kleinberg

    I just commented on my blog:

    3 roadblocks to Klout’s Vision
    https://www.tractionco.com/blog/193-3-roadblocks-to-klout-s-vision

  • http://twitter.com/WriterCrafter Kimberly Chapman

    As long as Facebook is weighted so heavily, those of us who have long boycotted that privacy-eating nightmare are ranked weirdly.  I talk with awesome, highly influential scientists all the time on G+ who are not and never have been on FB and their Klout scores are lower as a result.  When you compensate for those who only use some social media because they’re too busy doing actual things in the real world with much of their time, then I’ll take Klout more seriously.  Right now it’s just a silly little diversion that generally arrives at the startling conclusion that popular people are, in fact, popular.

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  • http://SportsGeek.com.au Sean Callanan

    Although at times I’ve been mystified at some of the topics I am supposedly influential I do like the idea of Klout Perks.  There is privacy concerns which have been raised by many.

    I posted this post - http://sportsgeek.com.au/social-media/the-measured-life-whats-your-klout-score/ just days before the Klout system was adjusted.

    Got varied feedback pre & post changes but agree with many that transparency was what a lot of people were looking for.  Understanding which networks are being scored & which are at the very least is a start.

  • Lois Creamer

    Hi Joe .. I’m glad you made this post. In fact, I am shocked it’s taken you this long to do it. The fact that so many have become disenchanted with Klout has nothing to do with your hard work or your employees hard work. It is the way you compile information that draws critics. Why not let users know how you go about compiling scores? The changes you made also made many question their involvement with Klout. We are left wondering .. what other decisions that will directly affect scores will you be making next week, next month? I’m still deciding whether or not I want to be involved w/Klout, and I know I’m not alone. That’s the problem Joe, it’s not personal at all. It’s business.

  • Clarizamariable

    “Invitation from inbox needs to reply with this just for viewing.”^  ^;…

  • Clarizamariable

    “Invitation from inbox needs to be reply, just for viewing.”^  ^;…

  • http://twitter.com/fltch Fletch

    Love long-term prospect of Klout and met Garth recently. I can appreciate the data nerdness, but Klout needs some non-nerd, mass-market thinking to solve for these issues that will inhibit growth outside of the industry.

    1. The number isn’t as important as fairness. Scores need to be consistent. Normalize the anonymous relativity. Not all RTs, Likes, Followings, etc. are the same. It’s hard to take Klout seriously when a self-described “Social Media Guru” with an auto-pilot Twitter account has a significantly higher score than people that are pumping out related content daily with the “right amount” of RTs and other engagement metrics.

    2. More important than #1, “Influential About” section needs to be updated more than it is. I did one (singular) tweet months ago about Michael Vick that had a few RTs, way fewer than other tweets. I have been “influential about” Michael Vick and the NFL ever since.

    Unfortunately that means I will not be eligible for most Klout Perks as not too many perks are open to Michael Vick influencers

    3. Fix the Klout Perks experience, if you don’t know what’s wrong with it … let’s talk.

    4. Klout U – content-guided knowledge base that
    a. provides insight into the process
    b. get thought leaders to author best practices docs – real thought leaders, not Klout Style Thoughtleaders
    c. aspirational content on how to improve your “Klout” station in life. I’m not the best Networker but that’s what you’ve branded me as except for the random days when Klout lists me as a Tastemaker

  • Bpcurtis

    San Pedro?

  • http://twitter.com/woepwoep Ronald Wopereis

    If you think Michael Vick influencers have trouble becoming eligible for Klout Perks, try living in a country that is not the US…

  • http://www.copperreflections.com/ handmadejewelry

    Thank you for the great article about Klout. What were our chances before
    the social networks in telling other people what we know and think. It has been
    an incredible change in the freedom of speech since then.

  • http://twitter.com/gtra1n gtra1n

    But how is Klout measuring what it claims to measure? Other than one person goosing another’s Klout score, I can see no connection between scores and informed opinion, which Klout claims to measure. A snarky comment gets a score, while some actual knowledge is ignored. And I can safely say I have never in my online life rendered an opinion on Columbus, OH, yet at one time Klout said that was one of my areas of ‘expertise.’ I sense arbitrariness, and more than a little fraud, and certainly a lack of in depth knowledge and interest in topics.

  • http://twitter.com/otioselyyours Stephanie Johnston

    Exactly. Some take this very seriously and are rather up in arms about how it is just another means in which their stats will be sold and yadda, yadda. Believe me, I went on a humor-based cynical rant about the world of social media and advertising when I signed up for Klout, but you know what? I love the social sciences, technology, trying anything new, the opportunity to report on it to friends and free stuff. Klout is a prime place to do all of the above.

  • http://twitter.com/azulmarino Pablo Pérez Benítez

    That video could benefit from some subtitles since the audio is not as clear as it should.

  • http://ciarannorris.co.uk Ciaran

    Any plans to start respecting people’s privacy by allowing people to delete their profiles/block your crawlers?

  • http://www.giglogo.com Karla Campos

    Many are upset due to the change in your measurement, my score didn’t change much with your algorithm revision so I’m not upset lol I know that you can’t give away your algorithm because then you will have people abusing it. Are there any tips you have to share for those who had high scores with the previous algorithm but lost points with the change?

  • http://crowdbooster.com/ Ricky Yean

    Hey Tom – I think you’ll see a lot of interesting things coming from Klout and Klout’s ecosystem of developers. For example, we at Crowdbooster are helping you filter your followers and helping you use Klout scores to prioritize them *if* what you cared about was to focus on interacting with influential people, like you would as a PR person. I’ve also seen Klout come up with ways to help you identify interesting people to follow based on topic, and even the best content shared by those people. These are all interesting use cases of the score for many of us. I am excited about the future, and Klout aren’t the only guys measuring online influence.

  • BartHufen

    Why isn’t Joe involved in this discussion about his very own product? 

    There are 60 replies and no comments from him? Join in Joe, it’s your blog! 

    Blogging means a dialogue, that’s exactly what I miss with Klout. It’s an ‘ego trip’ for the user combined with a leaderboard (points & stats) no more than FourSquare (in a different way of course), no fun at all and not relevant for a very long time… Hail to Tom Coates with his correct criticism… 

  • http://www.jordanenglishgross.com Jordan English Gross

    Your point with facebook is valid – except that the issue is not privacy. The issue is that Facebook communication is about family and friendship – not influence. Adding Facebook is about helping people like Justin B or users who chatter a lot with their friends. Not true topical influencers. Certainly not John Smith from Des Moines.

  • Bridgetzig

    I have long teased my Econ Prof friend that we don’t really need paper money & that a hugs & kisses currency would do just as well if we attached value to it. Now I tease her about being able to acquire items via Klout perks. I admittedly loved my Sharpie perk. I have also been known for favoring my shapies over mu Mont Blancs. I have hundreds sorted by color & size. I always have more than enough at concerts & events to give some to folks wanting autographs etc.

    All this talk about transparancy is from folks who seem to want to monetize social media. The self proclaimed gurus of social media. The ones who want to game the system to make sure they become the hottest product. The perks aren’t yet that valuable but knowing your social media club friend has more Klout than you eats at your ego & bottom line.

  • http://twitter.com/percychow percychow

    Hey Joe – thanks for your post and putting yourself out there. FWIW – I’m in marketing (B2B space was in consumer marketing), and currently classified as a “specialist” via Klout.

    I’ve played with Klout – turned on/off my connected networks, monitored how my behavior online affects my score, etc. And I’ve come to the conclusion is that Klout is helpful in measuring ones overall VIRTUAL persona online to an external audience based on your inter/actions in your online networks. 

    I’m the guy who is turning the dials to see what happens and observes my network as well as others.

    And to me, it all works – yes even with the bugs and upgrades and tuning you guys are doing.

    I don’t quite get why so many people are up in arms, offended, over scoring or transparency. It all seems like simple cause/effect to me. Keep up the good work. 

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